Comments for Poor Mans Heli http://poormansheli.com Get off your ass Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:38:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on TUESDAY STOKE: Jim Jack and Bird at Ski Hill by Nick Soper http://poormansheli.com/2012/02/21/tuesday-stoke-jim-jack-and-bird-at-ski-hill/comment-page-1/#comment-1717 Nick Soper Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:38:02 +0000 http://poormansheli.com/?p=2965#comment-1717 I'm really glad you posted this. I'd not seen JJ for many moons - not since he did a stint in Queenstown years back - and having heard the tragic news was so grateful to find some recent footage of JJ hanging out on the slopes. Brought both a smile to my face and a tear to my eye. I’m really glad you posted this. I’d not seen JJ for many moons – not since he did a stint in Queenstown years back – and having heard the tragic news was so grateful to find some recent footage of JJ hanging out on the slopes. Brought both a smile to my face and a tear to my eye.

]]> Comment on Made in the USA by Justin http://poormansheli.com/2012/02/15/made-in-the-usa/comment-page-1/#comment-1691 Justin Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:43:51 +0000 http://poormansheli.com/?p=2767#comment-1691 I think it's most likely 50/50. Given that WM has had hundreds and hundreds of Xcel suits, and will sell out of their inventory (just check DepartmentofGoods for totals) and than miraculously have a few hundred more in a couple weeks, leads me to believe they are getting volume discounts direct. As far as prior year stuff showing up there, or buying inventory from shops going out of biz (aka they won't be able to reup their inventory), etc., that's always going to be a reality of the biz and am OK with that. Just tough for local shops to compete when they're blowing out this year's product at 50% off retail. And yeah, half off is better than full price to my wallet as well. I think it’s most likely 50/50. Given that WM has had hundreds and hundreds of Xcel suits, and will sell out of their inventory (just check DepartmentofGoods for totals) and than miraculously have a few hundred more in a couple weeks, leads me to believe they are getting volume discounts direct.

As far as prior year stuff showing up there, or buying inventory from shops going out of biz (aka they won’t be able to reup their inventory), etc., that’s always going to be a reality of the biz and am OK with that. Just tough for local shops to compete when they’re blowing out this year’s product at 50% off retail.

And yeah, half off is better than full price to my wallet as well.

]]> Comment on Made in the USA by drex http://poormansheli.com/2012/02/15/made-in-the-usa/comment-page-1/#comment-1690 drex Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:37:28 +0000 http://poormansheli.com/?p=2767#comment-1690 i guess it depends how/who online liquidators like WM get their shit. if they do get em direct from companies like xcel...then if i were a BM shop i'd be inclined to not order new shit the following year or get some sort of refund....as a result of getting fucked via competing crazy low prices... i have a feeling that xcel/burton, whatever don't have any control on what shows up on WM. i like the idea of half priced gear though. i guess it depends how/who online liquidators like WM get their shit. if they do get em direct from companies like xcel…then if i were a BM shop i’d be inclined to not order new shit the following year or get some sort of refund….as a result of getting fucked via competing crazy low prices…

i have a feeling that xcel/burton, whatever don’t have any control on what shows up on WM.

i like the idea of half priced gear though.

]]> Comment on Made in the USA by Justin http://poormansheli.com/2012/02/15/made-in-the-usa/comment-page-1/#comment-1689 Justin Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:22:54 +0000 http://poormansheli.com/?p=2767#comment-1689 yeah, that's a whole 'nuther ball of horseshit that i wanted to touch on in that post but had already droned on long enough. basically, the companies that produce way over any reasonable level of expected demand and then hope to 1) have shops carry their shit (without giving them MASSIVE incentives upfront) and 2) expect consumers to take their shit seriously without ever seeing MASSIVE discounts on it. i mean hell, xcel makes good suits, but would you ever consider buying one a full pop now? the libs and the smaller mfrs of the world that typically underproduce (relative to demand as mervin obviously makes a shit ton of boards annually but you usually only see a handful of their decks on a prior year's sale rack vs. eight dozen burtons, couple dozen K2s, etc. - this year is going to be an anomaly though the way the winter has been tho) tend to hold their brand cache with consumers and retailers. constrain supply to create demand, works for pliny the younger right? yeah, that’s a whole ‘nuther ball of horseshit that i wanted to touch on in that post but had already droned on long enough. basically, the companies that produce way over any reasonable level of expected demand and then hope to 1) have shops carry their shit (without giving them MASSIVE incentives upfront) and 2) expect consumers to take their shit seriously without ever seeing MASSIVE discounts on it. i mean hell, xcel makes good suits, but would you ever consider buying one a full pop now? the libs and the smaller mfrs of the world that typically underproduce (relative to demand as mervin obviously makes a shit ton of boards annually but you usually only see a handful of their decks on a prior year’s sale rack vs. eight dozen burtons, couple dozen K2s, etc. – this year is going to be an anomaly though the way the winter has been tho) tend to hold their brand cache with consumers and retailers. constrain supply to create demand, works for pliny the younger right?

]]> Comment on Made in the USA by drex http://poormansheli.com/2012/02/15/made-in-the-usa/comment-page-1/#comment-1688 drex Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:08:10 +0000 http://poormansheli.com/?p=2767#comment-1688 yeah, im sure nw sales of xcel wetsuits in the last year have taken a shit because of WM. yeah, im sure nw sales of xcel wetsuits in the last year have taken a shit because of WM.

]]> Comment on Made in the USA by Justin http://poormansheli.com/2012/02/15/made-in-the-usa/comment-page-1/#comment-1687 Justin Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:57:26 +0000 http://poormansheli.com/?p=2767#comment-1687 I think long-term them taking a temporary hit on margin to either gain a new customer or to keep a long-term customer happy, no brainer, as long as it's within reason. Any sort of fly-by-night web shops with everything 50% off, obviously no, but a BC.com/REI/etc. type shop having a 20% off sale, sure. I think long-term them taking a temporary hit on margin to either gain a new customer or to keep a long-term customer happy, no brainer, as long as it’s within reason. Any sort of fly-by-night web shops with everything 50% off, obviously no, but a BC.com/REI/etc. type shop having a 20% off sale, sure.

]]> Comment on Made in the USA by drex http://poormansheli.com/2012/02/15/made-in-the-usa/comment-page-1/#comment-1686 drex Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:52:39 +0000 http://poormansheli.com/?p=2767#comment-1686 i always axe if shops will match a price i can find online or in OR(tax free!). they usually roll with that. win-win. i think if BM shops are gonna legit compete with online...they need to make it known they gonna match any price. Wakeboard Evo does it. Boom - http://www.evo.com/lowest-price-guarantee.aspx i always axe if shops will match a price i can find online or in OR(tax free!). they usually roll with that. win-win.

i think if BM shops are gonna legit compete with online…they need to make it known they gonna match any price. Wakeboard Evo does it. Boom – http://www.evo.com/lowest-price-guarantee.aspx

]]> Comment on Made in the USA by Justin http://poormansheli.com/2012/02/15/made-in-the-usa/comment-page-1/#comment-1685 Justin Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:49:19 +0000 http://poormansheli.com/?p=2767#comment-1685 Ooh, yeah, good catch Jason Ooh, yeah, good catch Jason

]]> Comment on Made in the USA by Jason http://poormansheli.com/2012/02/15/made-in-the-usa/comment-page-1/#comment-1684 Jason Thu, 16 Feb 2012 15:06:11 +0000 http://poormansheli.com/?p=2767#comment-1684 Smokin snowboards..... Smokin snowboards…..

]]> Comment on Made in the USA by Justin http://poormansheli.com/2012/02/15/made-in-the-usa/comment-page-1/#comment-1681 Justin Wed, 15 Feb 2012 23:19:11 +0000 http://poormansheli.com/?p=2767#comment-1681 I should also say Unity are like hen's teeth and unicorns out in these parts, don't recall the last time I saw one of their boards! I should also say Unity are like hen’s teeth and unicorns out in these parts, don’t recall the last time I saw one of their boards!

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